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Jo

Seriously. It was like entering an opium den, where we snatched Moomin out of the miasma. Everyone's eyes were glazed over and out of focus as they reflexively watched our movement through the room. Zzzzzzz

JM

Well crap. Now I wish I had come up there. Keep on posting so I can live vicariously through you.

badgerbag

Well there's still one more day of it. they're going to do stuff ad hoc after 2pm tomorrow too!!!!

Koan Bremner

"Why does everyone demand wonders of Technorati?" - I can't answer for everyone, only myself - but speaking personally, I'd settle for them doing (reliably, and without fuss) what they say they do (specifically, indexing posts and having the posts they've indexed show up consistently in searches and the tags with which they've been tagged) - as well as either admitting how superficial their ranking mechanism is, or improving it so that it isn't so superficial. But then, that's just me.

badgerbag

I asked that question of a lot of people and got the same answer you give, Koan -- or else an answer like, "Because they're the only game in town, or sort of. Well, actually, they aren't, but they're the biggest." Also got the answer of "People expect them to have the quality of results of Google - but they aren't there (yet)." It will be interesting to see how they evolve!

Koan Bremner

Hi Badger - I find myself in "heated agreement" with you! :-) Yes, Technorati *is* evolving - but in public discourse, they seem to want to give the impression that what they've already delivered is complete - whereas it isn't. It's no crime to be developing new systems (far from it) - but it's disingenuous (at best) to pass them off as complete when they're not.

I admit, I have a bit of a bee in my bonnet with Technorati - for the simple fact that Niall Kennedy lied to me, in public, in the opening session at BlogHer, and I don't take kindly to that. So one of my little missions at the moment is to challenge them to *publicly* state what is *really* happening with their systems and algorithms - and to hold them to account for their response. As you state in your post, there are other people calling them to account - Shelley Powers (Burningbird) has been making her own investigations, and published her findings, at http://weblog.burningbird.net/archives/2005/08/19/update-on-the-issue-of-links/ - and there's a comment by Kevin Marks from Technorati. I've replied to his comment (and emailed him a copy) and will be keen to learn his response... if any.

For there's my primary beef with Technorati - some of their staff have a habit of posting comments which effectively say "there's no problem, move along, nothing to see here"... but they tend not to come back and answer the substantive questions that are asked of their algorithms, their performance, their consistency and their reliability. And that really worries me, when so many people set such store by Technorati rankings (as Elisa Camahort, for example, expessed in this post http://workerbeesblog.blogspot.com/2005/08/when-comments-become-posts.html ).

I don't doubt that their people are great to talk with (my own experience with Niall Kennedy notwithstanding) - but they need to do more than just talk, unless they want to be written off as a talking shop. In my opinion.

Hip Liz

"it's not bad to ask for help and in fact it's more efficient if you are working as a group cooperatively"

Didn't wanna quote your whole post! So settled for this part. This is a big deal in tech, as you say, and a problem far more prevalent among men than women, who are naturally more cooperative and less ego-driven creatures. Interestingly though I have found my career and reputation stymied more by not asking for help enough, because within my corporation's particular culture, team is first and individual, not. I have philosophical mixed feelings about that but my point is there is workplace social progress, and I believe that the companies within which you get ahead by not revealing so-called weaknesses are the companies that ultimately lag in the market. There's no time for that sophomoric bullshit! (And yet I can get company-logo golf clubs, speaking of sophomoric bullshit, so go figure.)

crazywolf

I too believe in the strength of one, but teams have a better view of all the politics of the game. If the wolf trys to take on the elk by its own, its flank is exposed to the flying cougars jumping from the trees

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