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zellar

That's both pathetic and hilarious, but surely you must be joking. I believe I suffered through that same lecture --and isn't *that* (lecture) one of the great ironic word uses of all time--nearly 20 years ago. Good fucking luck.

Prentiss Riddle

So did your prof transfer from UT? And does he chain smoke in class? He sounds so familiar!

But I lurved lurved lurved Cien años and am old-school enough to understand and agree with his points. Regional yet universal, timeless yet groundbreaking -- that's exactly right. What's so hard to get? Why does that sound vague? I'm sure I'm just showing off my naive fogey-ness, stuck on what was hip 30+ years ago. Oh, well.

Perhaps you would enjoy the McOndo movement, a group of young turks united in their distaste for GGM. I haven't tracked down any of their books yet and I'm not sure whether they're neo-realists, neo-noir or something else, but they're definitely not magical realists.

If you want to provoke your prof, try out on him my pet theory that García Márquez stole the whole historico-magical-realism thing from Günther Grass. Which was then re-stolen by Salman Rushdie. The latter point I'm completely confident of, the former is a stretch. You could do a decent paper on The Tin Drum, Cien años and Midnight's Children.

Does the tropicalismo your prof talks about relate explicitly to the tropicalismo in Brazilian music? That was the generation kicked off by Caetano Veloso and Gilberto Gil, open to rock&roll and Stockhausen and lots of other global influences but also rooted in Brazilian music, very political but in veiled terms because of the Brazilian dictatorship. And terrific music! I'm sure they read GGM and other writers of the boom but I don't know whether they borrowed the term from them.

badgerbag

I suffered through it too at UT in what... 1986... 87... I lied that 100 yrs is my least favorite of "those books". G@briela Cl0ve and C1nnamon is much, much more irritating. Oddly I can deal happily with Fl0rida vs. B0edo or blatant modern1sm which I'm constantly translating and enjoying just as romanticism is not irritating though I bet it was at the time.

McCondo totally made my day! It's not like I don't appreciate the grand 100, but it wears thin after too much handling.

Prentiss Riddle

I still haven't read any Jorge Amado -- probably holding out till my Portuguese is up to the task -- but yeah, he deals a little too much in folkloric stereotypes for some people's taste. I've heard him referred to as "literature for tourists".

Wow! I'm impressed at your quick read of this prof's inadequacy. I had a prof like that at Stanford in LatAm history that elaborated at length about why indigenous women found the white conquerors irresistible ...all that power, you know. In a roomful of white men, I was absolutely horrified and too intimidated to say anything, unfortunately.

Live and learn.

Prentiss Riddle

[Name withheld], I guess what you're alluding to is that conquerors used force, not allure. Very true, I'm sure.

But my understanding is that there were some first contacts at which both sides did find each other quite attractive. Sailors are probably always horny after months at sea and people from materially more limited cultures can find trade goods very sexy, but I'm romantic enough to believe that sometimes opposites do attract.

Susana

>>I guess what you're alluding to is that conquerors used force, not allure. Very true, I'm sure. But my understanding is
Uh, no, not even close. I'm talking about the absolutely incredible ethnocentrism, and egocentrism that puts his (your?) dick in the middle of our discussion; the 'personalization' (read, trivialization) of structural forces like colonialism, colonial economies, genocide and oh yeah, rape; and finally, like Badger says, the fuzzy thinking and bland terms that disguise any meaningful intellectual substance.

But I digress.
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